The State of the Conservatives: A Discussion with CDU/CSU Members
Introduction
In the wake of recent controversial resolutions passed by the Conservative Union (CDU/CSU), ZEIT ONLINE engaged in a virtual discussion with four party members from across Germany. Pauline Borchard (Baden-Württemberg), Leo Hafner (Bavaria), Tobias Mitze* (Saxony-Anhalt), and Tim Möller (Lower Saxony) shared their perspectives on the party’s current state and the contentious issue of migration.
Migration and the CDU/CSU’s Response
ZEIT ONLINE: Despite the likelihood of support from the far-right AfD, was the CDU/CSU’s motion on migration the right step?
Pauline Borchard: The Union sought compromises with other democratic parties and the decision to introduce the motion and law was justified following the incident in Aschaffenburg.
Leo Hafner: I agree with Pauline’s assessment.
Tobias Mitze: I also support the decision.
Tim Möller: I believe the motion on January 29th was a mistake, but the draft law two days later was a different matter.
ZEIT ONLINE: Please explain your reasoning.
Möller: The motion on migration unnecessarily left us vulnerable to criticism and accusations of populism. The draft law, however, focused on concrete measures. It’s important for the CDU to assert that migration is our issue, not the AfD’s.
Reactions and Internal Disagreements
ZEIT ONLINE: Have you faced criticism for the party’s recent votes?
Borchard: Within the party, I have encountered mostly approval. However, some members have expressed criticism and one friend has even left. The main concern is the collaboration with the AfD.
Mitze: I am shocked that I need to justify being a CDU member after protests and attacks on our offices. I feel misunderstood.
Borchard: While I understand that there are different views, I believe the CDU is right to address the issue of migration.
The Church and the CDU/CSU
ZEIT ONLINE: The major churches in Germany have taken a stance against the party’s current course. As members of a Christian party, how does this affect you?
Mitze: The Evangelical Church has become too political.
Borchard: As a Catholic, I was surprised by the church’s open letter. Their explicit opposition to a party that promotes Christian principles is puzzling. However, I appreciate the clarification that it was not authorized by the German Episcopal Conference.
Conclusion
The discussion highlights the complexities within the CDU/CSU as it navigates controversial issues. The party members expressed a range of opinions, reflecting the diversity of perspectives within the Conservative Union. However, all agreed on the importance of addressing voters’ concerns about migration and finding solutions within the democratic framework.
